[alibey]

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ali

[alibey]

Latest Swift Framework release failed to update

Version: 1.60
fail to install on wp 4.3 / wc 2.4.6 / atelier 1.67

more generally, is it possible to roll back to a prior version of the framework if there is a bug in a newly installed version?

thx

ali

[alibey]

it is the 7th slide on this page

https://needlepoint.land/index.php/end-of-summer-sale-2/

let me know if you need me to send the top secret login info again.

many thx

ali

ps i will be putting in the cart button tomorrow… i assuming the woocommerce
add to cart shortcode [cartid + sku] works with the slider.

[alibey]

hi kyle

We can kill this ticket as I figured out to fix the missing header/title Shop page problem (even after
I deleted the Shop page in my WP admin panel. Obviously the Woocommerce entries are highly protected in the DB, so even this braindamaged move did not kill my catalog.)
I will show the code here in case someone else
ever runs into this issue. The constraint I set for myself is to fix this problem without mucking with any HTML directly.

so looking at the Atelier code the html for the Woocommerce/Atelier shop page is this:

<span class=”media-overlay” style=”background-color:#6193bf;opacity:0.37;”></span>

<div class=”heading-text container” data-textalign=”center”>

<h1 class=”entry-title” ></h1>

so to change color and opacity of the header (which was whitish) the custom css is trivial:

.media-overlay {
background-color: #BDBDBD !important; /* important is required even though the preprocessor complains */
opacity: .7 !important;
}

and then all that is left to do is access the DOM using JS using replace the content in entry-title.
like this…

document.addEventListener(“DOMContentLoaded”, function(event) {
document.getElementsByClassName(“entry-title”)[0].innerHTML = “Catalog”;
});

So in this way, I fixed the problem using 1 line of JS and no PHP or child theme complications.
I love JS!

cheers

ali

[alibey]

Hi Ed

Adding the Woocommerce cart shortcode to your Slider enhanced the revolution slider tremendously.
thanks for the tip!

However, I am still wrestling with trying to make the actual slider dimensions smaller, as the built in SLIDER MAX HEIGHT toggle seems to have no effect.

One thing that would be nice is the ability to click on an image on the slider, and have it automatically be added the cart from the slider itself. Whatever eliminates the number of clicks to checkout is what I am after.

It looks like I might have to teach myself basic PHP after all to start adding these custom little features that I think would be really useful and further drive sales. Same as with CSS. I know a lot of styling tricks and techniques, and get by okay, but am no CSS expert!

Lastly, I have been asking you guys A LOT of questions since buying the product a week or two ago. I really like Atelier, and appreciate your patience as I learn how to be productive in this new (to me) env.

cheers,

ali

[alibey]

there is no

” Theme Options > WooCommerce Options > Product Options and enable the slider width override ”

let me repeat

there is no “enable slider width override” option

why is atelier so good at doing complex things simply, and so difficult to use in terms of letting users do extremely simple things in a straightforward manner?

all the OP (and I) want is to size the slider to, say, some 600px x 400px size (or % or whatever one’s favorite css3 units are)

doing this in custom css screws up the slider so maybe you have to resort to making your pics the exact size you need to see them in the slider, which totally sucks — if that is the case

the swift slider option SLIDER MAX HEIGHT in Edit Swift Slider should do just that: set the max height, and have the slider calculate the proportional width

it does nothing of the sort, no matter what you tweak

plus there should be a way to control the border around the displayed image in the slider so that if your images are all a uniform 600x400px, then border is also a uniform width around it and not some gigantic white space machine as is the case now

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[alibey]

hi I probably will pass on going any further with this as time is limited. The client currently will accept the solution of adding categories such as Clearance Items in order to meet the project’s deadlines. We will have usability testing with select customers this weekend, and will get customer feedback re this approach.

the only point i was making earlier is simply reflects what my client is telling me

which is, she thinks of her products as falling into various categories (such as dogs and cats)

but that a product instance (for example, a particular needlepoint canvas, which is what she sells) can be further classified, say, as a new arrival or a clearance item

thus if “clearance” or “new arrival” are added to an item’s tag field (which would remove the need for custom fields) then possibly a more intelligent slider could display items based on that additional refinement: not just dogs or cats, but dogs that are put on (and later taken off) a NEWLY ARRIVED bucket (and not, as woocommerce does it, categorized as new based on INSERT dates)

ideally an end user could then create sliders that would be more flexible that is currently possible using mono-dimensional categorization

also, creating category-based slider lists by hand is not really a viable option when you are dealing with thousands of products in a highly dynamic retail environment of constant price changes

therefore there should be a kind of meta WoCommerce panel that lists all the products and then the store owner could quickly add tags to them via point and click without have to go into the laborious individual product item page and click on these Category boxes

woocommerce would not have to do anything: a slider would simply need to pick up existing WP functionality, ie, tags, entered either manually or via this panel

[i would develop such a slider/panel product myself but after this project is over i am developing a very different sort of customization “plug in” (more of a standalone woocommerce js-based SPA extension, actually) that I’m reckoning will be of immense benefit to SMB retailers (such as my client) on the Stripe/Merchant Account end of things — but this has nothing to do with sliders etc]

but I will say that (after taking a quick look at Meteor etc) none of the other WP plug in sliders do this right now, though, so it is a possible market opportunity for people who are interested in writing sliders

thanks for your response!

cheers

ali

[alibey]

forget it. topic closed.

[alibey]

sorry meteor slider, not query.

[alibey]

btw i was able to get the meteor query working in less than 5 minutes.

[alibey]

i guess this is considered an idiotic query, since it has not been answered.

[alibey]

hi i think additional category is a distasteful workaround

it mixes a drop down list of product type (eg cat and dog) with temporality (“new” or “old” categories values) — this is both inelegant and incorrect)

i would say you need an extra dimension in order to support the desired slider customization
for example
product type by category (eg cats and dogs) — this is supported now
but then add the allow the ability to additionally specify
product types by tags (eg tag value that support some finite temporal event, such as a SUPER DUPER SALE)

you would not want to do this off some SQL select by age call that picks up rows from when a product was entered in to the db

instead you should allow the merchant to add a simple (removable) tag value to a product (such as Clearance) which could be applied to old as well as new products that the merchant wishes to discount/or put a premium on (and thus is not as rigidly primitive as existing stored proc db calls in woocomerce that you see in storefront/boutique)

this can be done without extending the existing meta taxonomy of the wp db

just add some simple Atelier code that allows a user to pick up product instances dynamically by examining tags — this is not that difficult, and the added flexibility would be a major selling point for Atelier

this would also most likely give rise to some after market plug in by some clever programmer who would realize that you can offer the merchant a slick point and click interface to specify tag values and attach them to product instances

a tag of course would not only be applicable to custom temporal events: it is a flexible enough concept to support conceivably any way a merchant would want to slice and dice his or her inventory

[alibey]

I have documented below in exhaustive detail the bug I have identified in the Atelier mobile menu loop structure. Please review on needlepoint.land Web Site (you guys already have the log in credentials) to view — I have added custom background colors (red and blue) to my menus to make the bug obvious.

A proposed solution/fix is specified at the bottom of this message. I hope your dev team is agreeable to this, unless it can be conclusively proven that the HTML/JS that drives the menu looping is WP/WooCommerce code only. If not, please fix/implement within 72 hours if possible so that I can proceed with launch of my client’s site by Labor Day in the US. If not, please suggest what I can do, as WooCommerce seems to be essentially a marketing organization that has been contacted about this and simply does not respond to technical emails. Thank you.

PROOF DOCUMENTING MENU BUG IN ATELIER version whatever

1st pass (my desktop menu has catalog option only
enabled in the menu structure)

what appears on the desktop menu bar is Catalog, Cart, Wishlist and search

(btw I added the following custom css

#mobile-menu {
background: red;
}

to make clear it clear when the menu looping occurs

)

When I first click on the Menu navicon you see (ALL RED)

catalog

wishlist (added by Atelier)
my account (added by Atelier)
logout (added by Atelier)

2nd pass

(I added this custom CSS

#menu-mobile-menu {
background: blue;
}

to make the transition in the menu loop clear)

MENU IS ALL RED initially

Catalog
cart
wishlist
my account (note this appears twice if you add My Account in the desktop menu)
logout

If you click on

catalog <– only this appears as blue
in subsequent loops

[aside: if you click on a product on a mobile device
and add it to your cart
you then have to go back up to the top and click on cart to proceed to checkout

so by this time the customer will have bailed out as there is no message
at the Add to Cart level to Proceed to Checkout (not a bug, but a shitty feature)]

Next,

I add My Account to Desktop Menu (which is completely reasonable, if not necessary)

then My Account appears TWICE in the 1st pass (red only) Navicon menu
but then only once in the 2nd pass (Blue Catalog) Navicon menu

(proposed) SOLUTION:

add code that does this

WHILE IN RED NAVICON MODE

IF (option EXISTS in user-defined main menu structure) then
DELETE (duplicate option) from predefined (by Atelier) mobile menu

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